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DanKashola
11-29-2007, 11:04 AM
Howdy,

I have always asked for "chants" for a safe arrival when there is a guitar in shipment. The following blurb is meant to save others the horror that has decended Casa K'sho:

I found a killer guitar, paid what was asked, no dickering at all. I was told it was in a gigbag (which was kinda wierd due to that caliber of guitar) and I did ask about a case but was shot down by the dealer. I received the guitar . . . TRASHED ....... the tone knob mashed through the body. This friggin dealer put a classic guitar in this gigbag, and used a shitty single ply box to ship it ........ AND used the friggin U S Mail to get it here. When I retained enough composure I called the shop in Cal., the owner was out but the employee was very helpful in getting the data to file the claim on this end. Then several emails pop up from the owner wanting to change direction to have the guitar and the claim process to be started in Cal.

Look guys ...... I made the error, the guitar should have been in a case, I should not have let the dealer talk me out of it, PERIOD. The dealer ........ I am accustomed to the excellent service provided by Infinity, BCR, and Rockin Robin and I let my guard down. REMEMBER GUYS, YOU ARE IN CHARGE OF THESE GUITAR BUYS, NOT THE PIMP ON THE OTHER END.

The guitar, serial #001 in a series from a builder I met at the Arlinton show. He is also livid and has offered the world to make it right even though he is not directly envolved.

AND.......... When you ship, go the extra mile on your end . . loose strings, pad the inside of the case, and double box if possible.

http://robinlovers.com/discus/messages/5/6289.jpg

RandyS
11-29-2007, 11:17 AM
Ow. Oof. Hope that's gonna be OK. I think my nut got f#cked up in a mailing operation too.

Smitty
11-29-2007, 11:37 AM
Sounds simple to me, Dan. Have the dealer send you a full refund for HIS packing ERROR and let him spend all the time he needs in processing the claim. What a sick feeling. There are ways to ship guitars without a case; this was not one of them.

Randy Lutz
11-29-2007, 12:00 PM
Who whould ever sent a guitar US mail?
No way..
Hardshell case wraped in tons of bubble wrap shipped UPS or Fed Ex is the way a guitar should be shipped.

Randy Lutz
11-29-2007, 01:06 PM
Who whould ever sent a guitar US mail?
No way..
Hardshell case wraped in tons of bubble wrap shipped UPS or Fed Ex is the way a guitar should be shipped.

Randy Lutz
11-29-2007, 01:06 PM
Who whould ever sent a guitar US mail?
No way..
Hardshell case wraped in tons of bubble wrap shipped UPS or Fed Ex is the way a guitar should be shipped.

Jarold Davis
11-29-2007, 01:57 PM
I have no real idea how the USPS handles damage claims, but lets just say what I've heard is never consistant by any stretch of the imagination. My condolences. It does amaze me how some dealers regularly ship guitars inadequately packed. I've been lucky so far, it seems.

The shop should have the guitar shipped back and issue you a full refund. He blew off the hardshell case, even after you asked about one. Dan, don't even begin to think that you bear any responsibility for the dealer's gross negligence.

Hey, Randy, bumpin' up yer post count, huh? http://robinlovers.com/discus/clipart/happy.gif

bford
11-29-2007, 05:31 PM
That is crazy ridiculous. I've had 2 mishaps with guitars being broken in the last 7 months. Both were shipped in hardshell cases with bubble wrap and all of that good stuff. One was broken by FedEx Ground, the other by UPS. They all seem to have this ability. Having the insurance doesn't mean it's going to be easy getting your money either. What a pain.

Jimbo
11-29-2007, 06:21 PM
DAMN K'sho - THAT friggin BLOWS ! RETURN THE GUITAR IMMEDIATELY, and MAKE DAMN WELL SURE THAT THE HUMP THAT PACKED IT FOR SHIPMENT GETS HUNG BY THE SHORT HAIRS. AFTER THAT, THEY CAN SHOOT THE BASTARD. cush

The Shark
11-29-2007, 06:33 PM
Dan:

I have a good friend at USPS here in DeBary Florida. He told me that they require 3" of packing around fragile items. He also told me that a box withing a box is also a requirement (a hardshell case is obviously a box).

My point is that the dealer wishing to initiate the claim in his venue is probably a stall tactic in that his own negligence is most likely going to result in a claim denial.

I know this is not good news, but suggestions of a full refund by the dealer and letting him sort it out is probably sage advice.

Sorry this happened. I'd rather have someone hit my car. We bond with these damn things.

Dave R.

DCWalters
11-29-2007, 06:55 PM
That really sucks, I have had some similar deals lately. In the last two months both Fed Ex and UPS have destroyed guitars...

UPS claim department blows, so far Fed Ex has been pretty good.

Chuck Crow
11-30-2007, 02:43 AM
K'sho, my brother, you're a lot calmer in print than you were on the phone Tuesday. I should send that pic to the Mountaineers locker room---stirring them into a frenzy, and gauranteeing a victory over the dreaded Pitt Panthers Saturday!!! Remember, PITT ain't S___, and neither are arseholes who pack such nice guitars this crappy way!!!

Chollie
11-30-2007, 07:41 AM
Dude that sucks... Hopefully the powers that be will take care of it.


Chuck, The Mountaineers will have no problem stomping Pitt into the ground. I'm sure if we showed Schmitt the photo of the guitar another facemask would be put out of commission. LET'S GO MOUNTAINEERS

ChucksGuitarShop
11-30-2007, 08:36 PM
~~~

Best of luck with the claim Dan.

~~~

ChucksGuitarShop
01-06-2008, 07:03 PM
Any luck in the process Dan?

DanKashola
01-11-2008, 07:02 AM
I have the guitar hanging in the living room. It has been brought back to life, has been to a couple blues jams and played/sounded great. I have since put in a set of Rio G's and changed the bridge out .............. thanks for all the support on the RL site.

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BCRGreg
01-11-2008, 09:08 AM
"Round heah, we spell it WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERED.

DanKashola
01-11-2008, 11:38 AM
Round there you spell it "out of stock" ... when you gonna have some new stuff Greggy Poo ???

BCRGreg
01-11-2008, 12:15 PM
Call me.